YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE

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Length, width and height. Those are the three dimensions that all of us perceive, and are accustomed to manipulating rather easily . Science now believes there are many more dimensions around us that we cannot normally perceive, nor can we manipulate.

There's a problem with trying to explain the concept of other dimensions: It is usually so technical, so theoretical (other people's ideas), so convoluted with related concepts that it becomes super-boring, and tends to put the reader to sleep.

But it helps to have a basic grasp of the concept if a person (three dimensional, physical being) is to grasp concepts beyond the physical.

So, with that said, I will try to keep this as uncomplicated as I can. I think it will help many to understand the nature of the reality we find ourselves being part of.

The fastest moving thing mankind has been able to find is light. It travels 186,000 miles per second. An airplane traveling that fast would circle the earth almost 8 times in one second. One light-second equals 186,000 miles.

Imagine how far it would travel in a week, or a month. Some stars are separated by a distance that would take light 150,000 years to cross.

In Ecclesiastes 12:7, the scripture says, at the time of death, the body returns to the earth, but the spirit returns to God who gave it.  

Now, if heaven is out past the farthest stars (several billions of light years away), and if spirit traveled as fast as the fastest thing known to man, there must be billions of spirits zooming through deep space right now from people who have died thousands of years ago. My calculator shows they have several million more years travel time before they get there.

All this, just for the spirit to get back to God who gave it.

Yet the Book of Acts says this:


"That they should seek the Lord, 
if haply they might feel after him, 
and find him, though he be 
not far from every one of us:" 

(Acts 17:27)

What is wrong with this picture?

I'll tell you what's wrong. It's not the whole picture. And, more than that, we can't see the whole picture.

Let me put it this way. There is a "place", that is all around us. We cannot see it, nor can we go there. We, as we are now, cannot get there from here. It is the dimension God resides in. And; it is "not far from everyone of us."

It appears to be another physical reality. 

See ABOUT THE FAMILY OF GOD, and THE GEOGRAPHY OF HEAVEN (Ernest L. Martin - article), and THE GEOGRAPHY OF GOD (David Sielaff - audio)


Here's The Problem.
One cannot get there by traveling through the space we're in.  

Instead, one must travel out of our space to the dimension of another space that exists "somewhere else". You are either there, or you are here. You cannot be here, and travel through "here" far enough to get "there."

Nothing physical can leave this "place" where we all exist now. Including our physical body.

To travel there, where the celestial beings live,  we would have to leave our very body behind, while our spirit travels to the other "place".  

 We would then, once again,  have to materialize out of the material "stuff" of that place.

We are either with them (celestial beings), or we are with us (physical beings).

Now, the reason I phrased that last sentence the way I did, is so you might immediately grasp the meaning of the next verse of scripture I want to look at.

It is a prophecy concerning the coming of a Savior into the world, born as a baby, with the mission to save mankind. it is found in Isaiah 7:14 :


"Therefore the Lord himself shall 
give you a sign; Behold, a virgin 
shall conceive, and bear a son, 
and shall call his name Immanuel."



Matthew adds a little more light to the subject in Matthew 1:22-23. Look at what the name Immanuel means!



"Now all this was done, that it 
might be fulfilled which was spoken 
of the Lord by the prophet, saying,



                        Behold, a virgin shall be with child, 
and shall bring forth a son, and 
they shall call his name Emmanuel, 
which being interpreted is, God with us".
( in our dimension - physical)
Rocket propulsion to travel great distances is a crude concept. Based on the law of physics that describes equal and opposite reactions, it is not very cost effective, and takes us about eight months to reach the next planet out .... Mars. Imagine riding in your car for eight months before making the first stop!

Light can travel from here to Mars in a little over three minutes! But light speed represents a threshold.... a barrier. Laws of physics say that if matter attains the speed of light it will convert to energy. Imagine a traveler going "out" in a burst of light.

How on earth can mankind ever think of "visiting the stars" with a feeble rocket?

What we need is a portal. A portal that man simply passes through to other places and fore go all that traveling.

If you've followed me to this point you will be able to grasp the power of a spirit being. A spirit being has a portal. It appears to be in the form of apparel, although it may be an inherit part of the spirit body itself.

The apostle Paul talks about being resurrected, after which immortality is "put on", like a mantle or cloak. (I Corinthians 15: 53 - 54)

It seems that God once loaned Elijah a mantle that was later passed to his replacement, Elisha. (God may have all kinds of mantles). Elijah used it for transporting him self around. The effect, of which, must have caused a whirlwind in the local area as I will show. This mantle seemed to provide a connection between the dimensions, as well as other unusual powers. Let's take a look at a few interesting verses:

I Kings 19:10-13: Israel had been breaking their deal with God. Elijah thought he was the only obedient one left and that they were going to kill him for it. So he prayed about it. He needed to be re-insured. So God told him to go stand on a mountain side to remind Elijah that he had nothing to fear from any mortal man.

God passed by, and the wind thus created, shook the mountain breaking rocks as it went. Then it says "but the LORD was not "in" the wind. He was next to the dimension of Elijah, but He was not "in" it. The same thing happened with an earthquake and fire.

Hearing a still "small" voice, he knew God wanted to communicate with him in a special way. Being in a cave, Elijah walked out to the entrance, took his MANTLE, wrapped it around his head, and heard the very clear voice of God say, "What are you doing here, Elijah?"

Here's the scripture: (I kings 19: 10 - 13)



"And he said, I have been very 
jealous for the LORD God of hosts: 
for the children of Israel have 
forsaken thy covenant, thrown 
down thine altars, and slain thy 
prophets with the sword; and I, 
even I only, am left; and they 
seek my life, to take it away.

And he said, Go forth, and stand 
upon the mount before the LORD. 

And, behold, the LORD passed by, 
and a great and strong wind 
rent the mountains, and brake 
in pieces the rocks before the LORD; 
but the LORD was not in the wind: 
and after the wind an earthquake; 
but the LORD was not in the earthquake:

And after the earthquake a fire; 
but the LORD was not in the fire: 
and after the fire a still small voice.

And it was so, when Elijah heard it, 
that he wrapped his face in his mantle, 
and went out, and stood in the entering
 in of the cave. And, behold, there 
came a voice unto him, and said, 
What doest thou here, Elijah?"

At another time, Elijah separated the dimension he was in by smacking the surface of a stream with the mantle; at which time the water separated so he could walk across. (II Kings 2:8)

During the days of the ungodly Ahab, king of Israel, God stopped the rain for three years. Ahab, divided his men and went on a search for Elijah, to get him to call upon God for rain.

Obadiah, one of Ahab's officers couldn't believe it when he finally came upon Elijah. He told Elijah the situation and wanted Elijah to follow him back to Ahab. Elijah refused, saying, "you go get Ahab and bring him here."

Obadiah said, "Oh no. Please come with me. The king will kill me if he knew I found you and I didn't bring you back. For surely, after I leave, a whirlwind will pick you up and carry you to parts unknown, like it always does."

Elijah eventually left this mantle with his successor, Elisha. (I Kings 19:19)

Yes, a portal is the way to go. But, not any "fixed" portal. Not something that has control over your flexibility of travel, in that you must go to it's location before traveling as in recent science fiction movies. But, having all the abilities of a time / dimensional portal as an attribute of your very being. An inherit ability.

Imagine being able to walk to the boundary of your dimension, because you know where it is! And, furthermore, it really is no boundary to you at all. If you want, you can step across, or take your hand and reach into any other dimension you wish like the hand that appeared to Nebuchadnezzar in the days of Daniel.

Imagine if you were standing near a boundary where beings of a lesser dimension existed. Imagine being able to see them while they could not perceive any other dimension higher than the one they existed in. Imagine you can see them sitting together at a meeting, so you decide to "step through" and join them. Imagine the clean up job they might have!


"And they rose up the same hour, 
and returned to Jerusalem, 
and found the eleven gathered together, 
and them that were with them, 
Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, 
and hath appeared to Simon.

And they told what things were 
done in the way, and how he was 
known of them in breaking of bread.



And as they thus spake, Jesus himself 

stood in the midst of them, and 

saith unto them, Peace be unto you.


But they were terrified and affrighted, 
and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

And he said unto them, 
Why are ye troubled? 

and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

Behold my hands and my feet, 
that it is I myself: handle me, and see; 
for a spirit hath not flesh and 
bones, as ye see me have.



And when he had thus spoken, 

he shewed them his hands and his feet.



And while they yet believed not 
for joy, and wondered, he said 
unto them, Have ye here any meat?


And they gave him a piece of a 
broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

And he took it, and did eat before them." 

 (Luke 24: 33-43)

Some things reaching down from a higher dimension into ours can be so startling as to make one's knees shake, or as in the case of Belshazzar, they "smote together."


"Belshazzar the king made a 
great feast to a thousand of his lords, 
and drank wine before the thousand.

Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, 
commanded to bring the golden 
and silver vessels which his father 
Nebuchadnezzar had taken out 
of the temple which was in Jerusalem; 
that the king, and his princes, his wives, 
and his concubines, might drink therein.



Then they brought the golden vessels 

that were taken out of the temple 

of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; 

and the king, and his princes, his wives, 

and his concubines, drank in them.



They drank wine, and praised the 

gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, 

of iron, of wood, and of stone.


In the same hour came forth fingers 
of a man's hand, and wrote over against 
the candlestick upon the plaister of the 
wall of the king's palace: and the king 
saw the part of the hand that wrote.

Then the king's countenance was changed, 
and his thoughts troubled him, so that 
the joints of his loins were loosed, 
and his knees smote one against another."  

Through such a dimensional exchange, could pass manna, fish and bread, an entire spirit army, water from a rock, messengers (angels), hail, frogs, or any number of other things also mentioned in the Bible.

Not being able to perceive any higher dimension than the three dimensional plane we exist on, such things seem to appear out of nowhere.

Think about this. Germs, as you know, are very, very small. Imagine a colony of germs living on a flat piece of glass. Scouring their essentially two dimensional world, they travel this way and that way, back and forth looking for something to metabolize. They never look up.

So you pick up the piece of glass and slide it under the microscope that came with your child's science set. You watch as they move about. They do not know you are there. They can't see you, even though you see them. This may help to get a point across, but in fact, germs live in a three dimensional reality too. If they had intelligence, plus a little telescope, they could see you too.

So, to show that things are not always what they appear to be, we need to take this one step further. Now imagine some type of microscopic intelligent being that truly does live in a two dimensional reality.

I started this article with the words, "length, width, height". Cross the last one out. Imagine a reality that had only the first two, length and width. Imagine a two dimensional being living in this two dimensional reality. They cannot even see the concept of "up and down". Their world consists only of "back and forth", "side to side" and any combination of the two. Imagine they live on a sheet of paper.


If one were to thrust a pencil through the 
sheet of paper. How would they perceive it? 

Imagine that, as one of the denizens of this two dimensional reality approached the place where the pencil went through the paper, they would bump into it. 

 As they would travel around the point of intersection, they would become convinced that they had walked into a disk. Never understanding the concept of up or down, they would perceive the entire pencil as looking only like a circular disk that appeared in their world. 

 Trying to crawl across the disk, they would, in fact, begin progressing up the pencil. Looking back, their previous world would have disappeared. If they traveled back, their world would appear again with the new found disk present once more. 

They simply would not be able to see the whole picture. They could not perceive both worlds at the same time unless they had a third dimension added to their reality.

Such a scenario is merely an attempt to understand things we normally do not think about. But I cannot help be reminded of the times when the Lord (speaking from His dimension) said,"I will go down", or "Let's go down". This one involves the cities of Sodom and Gororrah:


"And the LORD said, Because the 
cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, 
and because their sin is very grievous;

I will go down now, and see whether 
they have done altogether according 
to the cry of it, which is come unto 
me; and if not, I will know"

(Genesis 18: 20-21)

This instance involves the building of the Tower of Babel:


"Go to, let us go down, and there 
confound their language, that they 
may not understand one another's speech."  
(Genesis 11:7)

There is a lot going on in the place where the Elohim live. It is all around us, but it cannot be seen. Yet, it is just as real as this three dimensional reality we live in. Many times in the past messengers have been sent into our dimension for various purposes. On one occasion a messenger was delayed for three weeks because of a battle in heaven.
"And, behold, an hand touched me, 
which set me upon my knees and 
upon the palms of my hands.



And he said unto me, O Daniel, 

a man greatly beloved, understand 

the words that I speak unto thee, 

and stand upright: for unto thee am 

I now sent. And when he had spoken 

this word unto me, I stood trembling.



Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: 

for from the first day that thou didst 

set thine heart to understand, and to 

chasten thyself before thy God, thy words 

were heard, and I am come for thy words.


                     But the prince of the kingdom of Persia 
withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo,
 Michael, one of the chief princes, came 
to help me; and I remained there with 
the kings of Persia. 




[This Persia is not on earth. 


by Ernest L. Martin


Now I am come to make thee 

understand what shall befall thy 

people in the latter days: for yet 

the vision is for many days.


And when he had spoken such words 
unto me, I set my face toward the
 ground, and I became dumb." 
 (Daniel10: 10-15)

After speaking with Daniel concerning things Daniel had been praying about, this messenger told him he had to return to the fight, but the Prince of Greece [heavenly Greece] would come. He then mentions a set of writings simply referred to as the "scriptures of truth", of which he, the messenger is an expert beyond all others except Michael (another Elohim)

This is probably the "Bible of the Universe", a collection of instructions for the sons and daughters of Elohim to live by. The violation of which results in the wars of Heaven.


"Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore 
I come unto thee? and now will I return 
to fight with the prince of Persia: and 
when I am gone forth, lo, the prince 
of Grecia shall come.

But I will shew thee that which is
 noted in the scripture of truth
and there is none that holdeth 
with me in these things, but 
Michael your prince."

The "place" where the Elohim reside, you can't get there from here. But you, are destined to undergo a change. When that happens, you will all be able to go there. In fact, everyone ever born will eventually under go a metamorphosis and get to see it as it really is.
"Beloved, now are we the 
sons of God, and it doth 
not yet appear what we 
shall be: but we know that, 
when he shall appear, we 
shall be like him; for we 
shall see him as he is." 
 (I John 3:2)







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